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		<title>By: Alex G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked in the service industry as a waiter and bartender for several years, there are a few things I hope everyone takes into account:

1. Many of the things affecting the guest&#039;s opinion of &quot;service&quot; are out of the control of the server. This crosses all lines in the restaurants; a slow bartender will back up service and negatively affect timing standards for the restaurant. If you&#039;re ever wondering why it&#039;s taking your waiter so long to bring your drinks, try sneaking a peak at the service bar. Often you&#039;ll see them in a state of distress, straw and garnish in hand, waiting for a slow bartender to complete your table&#039;s order. The same goes for the kitchen. There is huge room for human error in every part of the restaurant. The way you&#039;ve communicated you want your food prepared may be EXACTLY how the server communicates it to the kitchen. From there, the chef, expo, or line cook may misinterpret it in some way or become forgetful. If the server isn&#039;t present when the food is dropped at the table, it suddenly becomes their fault. This isn&#039;t always the case, but it goes hand in hand with giving people the benefit of the doubt. If you ordered your salad without tomatoes and it arrives WITH tomatoes and you recall your server acknowledging your request, chances are it was a breakdown in the kitchen. Having the patience to allow your server to correct the problem in a timely fashion or being understanding when they apologize for a drink that took too long ...these are great virtues and are ALWAYS appreciated by the waitstaff.

2. Just as your meal is not the only thing going on in your day, your meal is certainly not the only thing on your waiter&#039;s mind. I can&#039;t tell you how many people truly believe they are their waiter&#039;s first and only priority. On a typical night, I have 6 tables at once with that same mindset. A little patience goes a long way. You may have asked for something simple; &quot;may I have some salt, please&quot;. Keep in mind that bringing you salt is one of several things they are juggling. When a waiter is extremely busy and is able to complete all requests quickly, you know you&#039;ve got a great waiter on your hands. 

3. It&#039;s true what others are saying. If you tip exceptionally poorly or not at all you are not sending the waiter any message other than, &quot;I&#039;m cheap.&quot; Listen, we&#039;re human beings. We know when we&#039;ve done an excellent job and we know when we could have done better. When I get a mediocre tip on a table I KNEW I could have done better with, I accept it and move on and try to do better by the next table. When I get a horrible tip from ANY table, particularly if I&#039;ve done my job well, it just makes me upset. &quot;Do those people really think this is how much my time is worth?&quot; I agree with the poster that said that a good or average tip when you feel you&#039;ve only had &quot;middle of the road&quot; service is actually greater inspiration for that server to continue to improve. Pay it forward. 

Just a few things to keep in mind! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked in the service industry as a waiter and bartender for several years, there are a few things I hope everyone takes into account:</p>
<p>1. Many of the things affecting the guest&#8217;s opinion of &#8220;service&#8221; are out of the control of the server. This crosses all lines in the restaurants; a slow bartender will back up service and negatively affect timing standards for the restaurant. If you&#8217;re ever wondering why it&#8217;s taking your waiter so long to bring your drinks, try sneaking a peak at the service bar. Often you&#8217;ll see them in a state of distress, straw and garnish in hand, waiting for a slow bartender to complete your table&#8217;s order. The same goes for the kitchen. There is huge room for human error in every part of the restaurant. The way you&#8217;ve communicated you want your food prepared may be EXACTLY how the server communicates it to the kitchen. From there, the chef, expo, or line cook may misinterpret it in some way or become forgetful. If the server isn&#8217;t present when the food is dropped at the table, it suddenly becomes their fault. This isn&#8217;t always the case, but it goes hand in hand with giving people the benefit of the doubt. If you ordered your salad without tomatoes and it arrives WITH tomatoes and you recall your server acknowledging your request, chances are it was a breakdown in the kitchen. Having the patience to allow your server to correct the problem in a timely fashion or being understanding when they apologize for a drink that took too long &#8230;these are great virtues and are ALWAYS appreciated by the waitstaff.</p>
<p>2. Just as your meal is not the only thing going on in your day, your meal is certainly not the only thing on your waiter&#8217;s mind. I can&#8217;t tell you how many people truly believe they are their waiter&#8217;s first and only priority. On a typical night, I have 6 tables at once with that same mindset. A little patience goes a long way. You may have asked for something simple; &#8220;may I have some salt, please&#8221;. Keep in mind that bringing you salt is one of several things they are juggling. When a waiter is extremely busy and is able to complete all requests quickly, you know you&#8217;ve got a great waiter on your hands. </p>
<p>3. It&#8217;s true what others are saying. If you tip exceptionally poorly or not at all you are not sending the waiter any message other than, &#8220;I&#8217;m cheap.&#8221; Listen, we&#8217;re human beings. We know when we&#8217;ve done an excellent job and we know when we could have done better. When I get a mediocre tip on a table I KNEW I could have done better with, I accept it and move on and try to do better by the next table. When I get a horrible tip from ANY table, particularly if I&#8217;ve done my job well, it just makes me upset. &#8220;Do those people really think this is how much my time is worth?&#8221; I agree with the poster that said that a good or average tip when you feel you&#8217;ve only had &#8220;middle of the road&#8221; service is actually greater inspiration for that server to continue to improve. Pay it forward. </p>
<p>Just a few things to keep in mind! <img src='http://christianpf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: New Covenant Bible Institute</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Covenant Bible Institute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I can say Bob, may be you are right. There are many service  crew that do give the &quot;not that good service&quot; but we must learn on how to understand or just look at the side that what they are doing is tiring and stressing. Let us remember that we are only humans that are subject to feel tiredness and any negative feeling. Also, we can try to talk to them about what they are facing, maybe they need advices, let us pray for them. 

Let us be a blessing.
Great article Bob and great insights. More power!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I can say Bob, may be you are right. There are many service  crew that do give the &#8220;not that good service&#8221; but we must learn on how to understand or just look at the side that what they are doing is tiring and stressing. Let us remember that we are only humans that are subject to feel tiredness and any negative feeling. Also, we can try to talk to them about what they are facing, maybe they need advices, let us pray for them. </p>
<p>Let us be a blessing.<br />
Great article Bob and great insights. More power!</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some waiters/waitresses may not realize how rude they may be coming off to their tables.

I have waited tables for over 5 years, and it took me years to realize that when I was busy and feeling overwhelmed, I would sometimes come accross as rude or inconsiderate.

Now that I am older, I make sure to be accomodating.  Always apologetic if I make a mistake or overlook an empty drink.

Waiting tables is an art, and it takes years to master. 

The best thing anyone can do is be honest with the waiter/waitress and tell them what they&#039;ve done wrong (in a nice way).  

If they reject it or continue to be rude/inconsiderate, consult a manager.  Serving may just not be their specialty.... everyone needs to do something to get by.  

So dont be part ofthe problem, be part of the solution :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some waiters/waitresses may not realize how rude they may be coming off to their tables.</p>
<p>I have waited tables for over 5 years, and it took me years to realize that when I was busy and feeling overwhelmed, I would sometimes come accross as rude or inconsiderate.</p>
<p>Now that I am older, I make sure to be accomodating.  Always apologetic if I make a mistake or overlook an empty drink.</p>
<p>Waiting tables is an art, and it takes years to master. </p>
<p>The best thing anyone can do is be honest with the waiter/waitress and tell them what they&#8217;ve done wrong (in a nice way).  </p>
<p>If they reject it or continue to be rude/inconsiderate, consult a manager.  Serving may just not be their specialty&#8230;. everyone needs to do something to get by.  </p>
<p>So dont be part ofthe problem, be part of the solution :]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is that a solution? That would tell me that I did such a fine job that you wanted to give me a little more than usual. That seems to be a mistake.

I have no hesitation giving low tips if they&#039;re earned. I also don&#039;t subscribe to the 15% average. 10% is my average. 10% was what my father tipped, so 10% is what I tip, because percentages do not get hit by inflation. When I enter a restaurant, the waiter is sitting on 10% if things go in an average fashion.

He or she can adjust that upward if he or she does things well, or downward if things are done poorly. If you make me feel welcome, your tip rises. If I feel like an unwanted guest, it decreases. The better you do, the better your tip. I&#039;ve been known to tip 35% if the waiter does a fantastic job. I&#039;ve been known to tip nothing if the waiter is horrid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is that a solution? That would tell me that I did such a fine job that you wanted to give me a little more than usual. That seems to be a mistake.</p>
<p>I have no hesitation giving low tips if they&#8217;re earned. I also don&#8217;t subscribe to the 15% average. 10% is my average. 10% was what my father tipped, so 10% is what I tip, because percentages do not get hit by inflation. When I enter a restaurant, the waiter is sitting on 10% if things go in an average fashion.</p>
<p>He or she can adjust that upward if he or she does things well, or downward if things are done poorly. If you make me feel welcome, your tip rises. If I feel like an unwanted guest, it decreases. The better you do, the better your tip. I&#8217;ve been known to tip 35% if the waiter does a fantastic job. I&#8217;ve been known to tip nothing if the waiter is horrid.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well here&#039;s my take.  The waiter or waitress gets paid to do a good job, and tips are part of that pay.  While we certainly don&#039;t know if there is something going on in that waiter or waitresses life that might contribute to their attitude, it is still no excuse.  In any other customer service job, you would not be paid for giving customers an attitude, making them not want to come back, or otherwise causing them the discomfort a bad waiter or waitress gives.  (What I mean by not be paid is you would be fired)  I just flat out don&#039;t believe in paying someone what they have not earned.  To earn my tip, you have to give me the good service that a tip is supposed to be for.  I will not give a bad waiter or waitress the same tip I give to an excellent one, that is just not right to the good one, what kind of message is that sending?  That&#039;s like giving candy to a child who is behaving very well, and then giving candy to the one who is screaming at you and kicking  you in the shins.  Bottom line, if I get bad service, you get a bad tip, or none at all, that&#039;s how tips are supposed to work.  It might hurt the server&#039;s pocketbook, but isn&#039;t that one of the fears that keeps us all doing good jobs at all our jobs?  A tip is earned as a thank you for good service.  No good service-then all you have earned is however much the restaurant agreed to pay you per hour.  I&#039;d expect the same if I worked as waitstaff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here&#8217;s my take.  The waiter or waitress gets paid to do a good job, and tips are part of that pay.  While we certainly don&#8217;t know if there is something going on in that waiter or waitresses life that might contribute to their attitude, it is still no excuse.  In any other customer service job, you would not be paid for giving customers an attitude, making them not want to come back, or otherwise causing them the discomfort a bad waiter or waitress gives.  (What I mean by not be paid is you would be fired)  I just flat out don&#8217;t believe in paying someone what they have not earned.  To earn my tip, you have to give me the good service that a tip is supposed to be for.  I will not give a bad waiter or waitress the same tip I give to an excellent one, that is just not right to the good one, what kind of message is that sending?  That&#8217;s like giving candy to a child who is behaving very well, and then giving candy to the one who is screaming at you and kicking  you in the shins.  Bottom line, if I get bad service, you get a bad tip, or none at all, that&#8217;s how tips are supposed to work.  It might hurt the server&#8217;s pocketbook, but isn&#8217;t that one of the fears that keeps us all doing good jobs at all our jobs?  A tip is earned as a thank you for good service.  No good service-then all you have earned is however much the restaurant agreed to pay you per hour.  I&#8217;d expect the same if I worked as waitstaff.</p>
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		<title>By: Veryoldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veryoldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the service industry and have been all my working years. I am particularly interested in the attitude of all service people--at wal-mart, auto-parts store, but most specially waiters/waitresses. I tip accordingly. 15% for adequate service, 20% plus for good service, and 0% to the waiter that is offended that I was assigned to his area. I&#039;ve been moved to have my wife give a waitress a $100 bill a few times (no misunderstandings that way.) I&#039;ve also been known to ask why a poor waiter was so unhappy with his job and offer some well intended advice, though not always accepted as such.

&quot;our job is to satisfy our customer. Nothing more can be expected, Nothing less can be accepted&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the service industry and have been all my working years. I am particularly interested in the attitude of all service people&#8211;at wal-mart, auto-parts store, but most specially waiters/waitresses. I tip accordingly. 15% for adequate service, 20% plus for good service, and 0% to the waiter that is offended that I was assigned to his area. I&#8217;ve been moved to have my wife give a waitress a $100 bill a few times (no misunderstandings that way.) I&#8217;ve also been known to ask why a poor waiter was so unhappy with his job and offer some well intended advice, though not always accepted as such.</p>
<p>&#8220;our job is to satisfy our customer. Nothing more can be expected, Nothing less can be accepted&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Mordecai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Mordecai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Katie
&quot;dont make the people that handle your food angry….&quot;
Why? Because they&#039;ll spit in it? I don&#039;t care if you have the rudest customer in the world, if you intentionally screw up someone&#039;s food, you should be fired immediately. Furthermore, that customer paid for that food so to ruin it is a form of theft. 

That being said, if you&#039;re having a bad day in terms of making mistakes, an apology should be enough. If you&#039;re having a bad day in terms of being impatient, short, inconsiderate, negligent or rude, you should feel it in the tip. 

There is a reason that restaurants are considered to be in the service industry. The food is almost always easy to make and cheaper to eat at home. People think they go out for the food, but really they go for the experience. That means that restaurants sink or sail based on the experiences they create. If a customer has a bad experience, they don&#039;t usually think &quot;crappy server&quot; they think &quot;crappy restaurant,&quot; and they never come back. The restaurant has to ensure that their servers don&#039;t ruin peoples&#039; experiences because their longevity depends on it. Hence they have you make the bulk of your money in tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Katie<br />
&#8220;dont make the people that handle your food angry….&#8221;<br />
Why? Because they&#8217;ll spit in it? I don&#8217;t care if you have the rudest customer in the world, if you intentionally screw up someone&#8217;s food, you should be fired immediately. Furthermore, that customer paid for that food so to ruin it is a form of theft. </p>
<p>That being said, if you&#8217;re having a bad day in terms of making mistakes, an apology should be enough. If you&#8217;re having a bad day in terms of being impatient, short, inconsiderate, negligent or rude, you should feel it in the tip. </p>
<p>There is a reason that restaurants are considered to be in the service industry. The food is almost always easy to make and cheaper to eat at home. People think they go out for the food, but really they go for the experience. That means that restaurants sink or sail based on the experiences they create. If a customer has a bad experience, they don&#8217;t usually think &#8220;crappy server&#8221; they think &#8220;crappy restaurant,&#8221; and they never come back. The restaurant has to ensure that their servers don&#8217;t ruin peoples&#8217; experiences because their longevity depends on it. Hence they have you make the bulk of your money in tips.</p>
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		<title>By: KATIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>KATIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS A SERVER I COMPLETELY AGREE VICTORIA!!!!
She just listed out a day at work for me. i say to be safe always double the tax! Always leave a tip...its our income!!! Everytime you leave a tip you just wrote that server a check...you just paid them!!! And we are not always the ones at fault because we have those people that come in and are rude to us right off the bat even if we came up to them with our most genuine hospitality. Think about it what if you were having a bad day at your 9-5 job and your boss came into your office and said &quot;You know what Joe, you sucked today...I think I&#039;ll dock you $50.&quot; And I know what you are thinking, well if you dont like your job get a new one....well some of us can&#039;t or are in the process of doing so. And before you say anything to that you dont give that bum on the side of the street the $1.97 in your car ashtry...you just shake your head and say get a job....well guess what, thats you server....so be nice tip us...and dont make the people that handle your food angry....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS A SERVER I COMPLETELY AGREE VICTORIA!!!!<br />
She just listed out a day at work for me. i say to be safe always double the tax! Always leave a tip&#8230;its our income!!! Everytime you leave a tip you just wrote that server a check&#8230;you just paid them!!! And we are not always the ones at fault because we have those people that come in and are rude to us right off the bat even if we came up to them with our most genuine hospitality. Think about it what if you were having a bad day at your 9-5 job and your boss came into your office and said &#8220;You know what Joe, you sucked today&#8230;I think I&#8217;ll dock you $50.&#8221; And I know what you are thinking, well if you dont like your job get a new one&#8230;.well some of us can&#8217;t or are in the process of doing so. And before you say anything to that you dont give that bum on the side of the street the $1.97 in your car ashtry&#8230;you just shake your head and say get a job&#8230;.well guess what, thats you server&#8230;.so be nice tip us&#8230;and dont make the people that handle your food angry&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 15:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E Anderson, 

This is a bit off topic, but since there is a little bit of confusion that needs to be cleared up, I will address this. Yes this is a Christian site, as I am a Christian and the author of the article, but just like yourself, many readers are not Christians. In fact, from my analytics data, I would estimate that well over half of the readers are not Christians. 

So, I can&#039;t speak for each of the previous 55 commenters and their responses, but regardless of whether they are Christians or not -  you are going to meet nice and mean Christians - becoming a Christian doesn&#039;t instantly turn you into a perfect person, in fact it will never turn anyone into a perfect person - it is just that we are striving to be like Jesus - and oftentimes failing to meet the mark.

To be honest, I have found that many Christians become Christians because they were pretty mean jerks, and realized that as much as they wanted to change, they couldn&#039;t do it on their own. So they cried out to God and asked for help - that was the case with me. I was disgusted with myself and realized that I needed help. I have been doing this Christian thing for almost 20 years and have watched God slowly turn me into a better person, but as much as I want to be a perfect person, I still don&#039;t know if I would qualify to be someone your would want to spend eternity with. 

Shortly after I became a Christian (and realized that there are just as many jerk Christians as there are non-christians) someone helped me by reminding me that just because you are following something, doesn&#039;t mean that you have to be like the followers. Politics is a great example. We vote for the leader we want in office, not for the followers of that leader. So in my case, Jesus has forever changed my life and I follow Him, because He is someone that I want to spend eternity with - and I think you would too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E Anderson, </p>
<p>This is a bit off topic, but since there is a little bit of confusion that needs to be cleared up, I will address this. Yes this is a Christian site, as I am a Christian and the author of the article, but just like yourself, many readers are not Christians. In fact, from my analytics data, I would estimate that well over half of the readers are not Christians. </p>
<p>So, I can&#8217;t speak for each of the previous 55 commenters and their responses, but regardless of whether they are Christians or not &#8211;  you are going to meet nice and mean Christians &#8211; becoming a Christian doesn&#8217;t instantly turn you into a perfect person, in fact it will never turn anyone into a perfect person &#8211; it is just that we are striving to be like Jesus &#8211; and oftentimes failing to meet the mark.</p>
<p>To be honest, I have found that many Christians become Christians because they were pretty mean jerks, and realized that as much as they wanted to change, they couldn&#8217;t do it on their own. So they cried out to God and asked for help &#8211; that was the case with me. I was disgusted with myself and realized that I needed help. I have been doing this Christian thing for almost 20 years and have watched God slowly turn me into a better person, but as much as I want to be a perfect person, I still don&#8217;t know if I would qualify to be someone your would want to spend eternity with. </p>
<p>Shortly after I became a Christian (and realized that there are just as many jerk Christians as there are non-christians) someone helped me by reminding me that just because you are following something, doesn&#8217;t mean that you have to be like the followers. Politics is a great example. We vote for the leader we want in office, not for the followers of that leader. So in my case, Jesus has forever changed my life and I follow Him, because He is someone that I want to spend eternity with &#8211; and I think you would too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 04:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, question. 
What about buffets? Say you go to a buffet that is 20 dollars per person and the only thing your waitress does is bring your drinks and clear plates..I&#039;m never really sure what kind of tip to leave. Anybody?</description>
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What about buffets? Say you go to a buffet that is 20 dollars per person and the only thing your waitress does is bring your drinks and clear plates..I&#8217;m never really sure what kind of tip to leave. Anybody?</p>
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