Comments on: Keep the Top Up: Materialism and Christianity http://christianpf.com/materialism/ Christian Personal Finance - Financial help blog, debt help and other financial resources Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:22:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 1st-Time Mommy http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-104492 1st-Time Mommy Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:35:38 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-104492 Though I'm certainly nowhere in the realm of making daytrader money (think low-level government employee money), I feel like materialism is still something I struggle with in my life. In not with the desire to have more things, then in the desire for financial "security" (though you can never really have enough). This is something my pastor spoke on recently, and he was comparing American notions of wealth with those held in the rest of the world. It's interesting to think how wealthy someone in the 3rd-world would think me if they found out I owned my own personal computer (something many Americans take for granted). Anyway, so as not to clog up your comments with my rambling, I'll just leave the link for the post I did on Christian materialism. http://8poundpreemie.blogspot.com/2011/01/i-want-to-live-in-america-where-even.html Though I’m certainly nowhere in the realm of making daytrader money (think low-level government employee money), I feel like materialism is still something I struggle with in my life. In not with the desire to have more things, then in the desire for financial “security” (though you can never really have enough).

This is something my pastor spoke on recently, and he was comparing American notions of wealth with those held in the rest of the world. It’s interesting to think how wealthy someone in the 3rd-world would think me if they found out I owned my own personal computer (something many Americans take for granted).

Anyway, so as not to clog up your comments with my rambling, I’ll just leave the link for the post I did on Christian materialism. http://8poundpreemie.blogspot.com/2011/01/i-want-to-live-in-america-where-even.html

]]> By: Jermonte Trading http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-70922 Jermonte Trading Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:06:50 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-70922 Hey boss. I hear you on this post. I built a trading system over past 5 years that have launch into its final phases of development. We tested it out running 15,000 on a 1:4 leverage account. I racked up around $9000 in 3 months on this account. Could have been more, but the SEC rules and account restriction of 3 round trips in 5 business day keeps the sandbag on. Either way, we ( and my 2 investors) partied the entire gains away. The idea was that we would make the money and blow it as fast as it came. The machine did better than expected. Those three months partied all three of us out. I quit drinking, and friends cool off also. I guess what I am trying to say is that when the wells are opened, life's vices or lack of discipline can take over easily. It scares me and still does that on a computer screen $1000 trades can be made in a matter of minutes. I scored a $1200 trade over a 2hr period. My average gains were running around $300 with an average holding time of 1.5 hours or less. My job as a dispatcher only give $425 a week after taxes to give perspective. I have recently upgraded the system and the testing results are better than before. I knew one thing, I have to give up the vices or my computer was going to be the ruin of me. My software's returns was lead me to the grave. I am thinking this next round I am going to give more. That fast cash can lead to a fast death. Hey boss. I hear you on this post. I built a trading system over past 5 years that have launch into its final phases of development. We tested it out running 15,000 on a 1:4 leverage account. I racked up around $9000 in 3 months on this account. Could have been more, but the SEC rules and account restriction of 3 round trips in 5 business day keeps the sandbag on. Either way, we ( and my 2 investors) partied the entire gains away. The idea was that we would make the money and blow it as fast as it came. The machine did better than expected. Those three months partied all three of us out. I quit drinking, and friends cool off also. I guess what I am trying to say is that when the wells are opened, life’s vices or lack of discipline can take over easily. It scares me and still does that on a computer screen $1000 trades can be made in a matter of minutes. I scored a $1200 trade over a 2hr period. My average gains were running around $300 with an average holding time of 1.5 hours or less. My job as a dispatcher only give $425 a week after taxes to give perspective. I have recently upgraded the system and the testing results are better than before.

I knew one thing, I have to give up the vices or my computer was going to be the ruin of me. My software’s returns was lead me to the grave. I am thinking this next round I am going to give more. That fast cash can lead to a fast death.

]]> By: DiscipleshipGuy http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-19348 DiscipleshipGuy Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:05:10 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-19348 I really like this post. It is my second time reading it, yesterday's sermon at church was on materialism so I decided to write a post about it also (found here:http://wp.me/pKI5B-24). When I was searching for other posts on the topic I found this one and read it for the second time. Great job! I really like this post. It is my second time reading it, yesterday’s sermon at church was on materialism so I decided to write a post about it also (found here:http://wp.me/pKI5B-24). When I was searching for other posts on the topic I found this one and read it for the second time. Great job!

]]> By: pat http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-17847 pat Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:39:52 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-17847 Good article...but I think you meant to write Romans Chapter 15. Good article…but I think you meant to write Romans Chapter 15.

]]> By: P31Woman http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-15347 P31Woman Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:51:51 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-15347 Good article. When we seek God's kingdom first we discover he has changed our hearts desire. We begin to desire what He desires. We begin to look more Christlike. Good article.

When we seek God’s kingdom first we discover he has changed our hearts desire. We begin to desire what He desires. We begin to look more Christlike.

]]> By: Joseph http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-13894 Joseph Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:37:09 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-13894 So this Shaw guy wants to give his $$$ away after winning Georgia Jackpot. That kind of selflessness is hard to come across. No serpent ever crawled so low he did not dream of thrones and crowns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbpmeaeVTrI&feature=related So this Shaw guy wants to give his $$$ away after winning Georgia Jackpot. That kind of selflessness is hard to come across.
No serpent ever crawled so low he did not dream of thrones and crowns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbpmeaeVTrI&feature=related

]]> By: Christian Carnival 283 : The Limitless.com http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-13739 Christian Carnival 283 : The Limitless.com Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:39:37 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-13739 [...] presents Keep the Top Up: Materialism and Christianity posted at Money in the Bible | Christian Personal Finance Blog, saying, “One man’s [...] [...] presents Keep the Top Up: Materialism and Christianity posted at Money in the Bible | Christian Personal Finance Blog, saying, “One man’s [...]

]]> By: Kevin at OutOfYourRut http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-13631 Kevin at OutOfYourRut Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:29:46 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-13631 Wow, what an incredible commentary on the conflict between the spirit and the flesh. Nowhere is that more apparent than with money matters. Bill, count yourself blessed that the Holy Spirit has reached you on this issue. So many Christians turn a blind eye to this and turn to chasing money for it's own sake. That's such an easy thing to do because it's part of our cultural norm. What a great witness to be driving an old Honda when you could have afforded a status car. I think this lets other people--believers and non-believers alike--know that you aren't tethered to the things of this world. A good friend of mine, a mature Christian, drove his car 300,000 miles. It was full of dings, dents and various imperfections, and he parted with it only when it was beyond repair. I admired him for driving it because I knew he could afford better. But he is unpretentious and prefers to support his church and do mission work. Even if non-believers don't see that, it's a powerful statement of faith to the believers who know him and know his situation. Eden--if you're not tithing because you're working your way out of debt, it's a good bet God will bless that effort. Any move out of bondage frees you to serve the only Master who counts, and once you're debt free you'll have both more time to work in the field and more money to tithe. Yeah, I think God will bless that! Wow, what an incredible commentary on the conflict between the spirit and the flesh. Nowhere is that more apparent than with money matters.

Bill, count yourself blessed that the Holy Spirit has reached you on this issue. So many Christians turn a blind eye to this and turn to chasing money for it’s own sake. That’s such an easy thing to do because it’s part of our cultural norm.

What a great witness to be driving an old Honda when you could have afforded a status car. I think this lets other people–believers and non-believers alike–know that you aren’t tethered to the things of this world.

A good friend of mine, a mature Christian, drove his car 300,000 miles. It was full of dings, dents and various imperfections, and he parted with it only when it was beyond repair. I admired him for driving it because I knew he could afford better. But he is unpretentious and prefers to support his church and do mission work. Even if non-believers don’t see that, it’s a powerful statement of faith to the believers who know him and know his situation.

Eden–if you’re not tithing because you’re working your way out of debt, it’s a good bet God will bless that effort. Any move out of bondage frees you to serve the only Master who counts, and once you’re debt free you’ll have both more time to work in the field and more money to tithe. Yeah, I think God will bless that!

]]> By: Ben http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-13629 Ben Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:17:57 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-13629 Great article! This is a journey I'm on as well. I used to treat tithe like a tax, giving a precise 10%. But that's an Old Testament concept. That's a concept that leads to materialistic thinking (10% is God's, but 90% is mine!). I'm starting to realize that everything is God's. It's not about giving away money to satisfy a legal requirement. Now my wife and I are making it a goal to give as much as possible, as we feel led by the Holy Spirit, to a variety of ministries and needs. I want to make wise kingdom investments that will yield spiritual fruit! Great article! This is a journey I’m on as well. I used to treat tithe like a tax, giving a precise 10%. But that’s an Old Testament concept. That’s a concept that leads to materialistic thinking (10% is God’s, but 90% is mine!). I’m starting to realize that everything is God’s. It’s not about giving away money to satisfy a legal requirement. Now my wife and I are making it a goal to give as much as possible, as we feel led by the Holy Spirit, to a variety of ministries and needs. I want to make wise kingdom investments that will yield spiritual fruit!

]]> By: Eden http://christianpf.com/materialism/comment-page-1/#comment-13627 Eden Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:29:12 +0000 http://christianpf.com/materialism/#comment-13627 What a great article! Thanks for writing this. These are topics I'm struggling a lot with lately. I haven't been tithing while I'm working at getting out of debt, but I've had a nagging feeling lately that I'm taking the wrong approach. You helped me see that I need to be more generous and faithful first and trust that I'll have the means to get out of debt at the same time. What a great article! Thanks for writing this.

These are topics I’m struggling a lot with lately. I haven’t been tithing while I’m working at getting out of debt, but I’ve had a nagging feeling lately that I’m taking the wrong approach. You helped me see that I need to be more generous and faithful first and trust that I’ll have the means to get out of debt at the same time.

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