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Mitch Ebie March 12, 2010 at 11:25 am

You make some good points! You are right, ultimately it is our fault. You also mentioned the need to be persistent. This is right on. If you want to get some good tips on negotiating things like fees and high prices read the book “getting to yes.” I have advised many people, and I have done this myself, to call all the companies that you pay money to. Just ask them to lower rates and reduce fees, they may say not, but they may say YES. Bank of America is really good concerning this. I sometimes wonder if they add the fees just so it gives them a chance to forgive the debt and appear merciful, ha-ha.

Overall, don’t beat yourself up for being overdrawn, life can get crazy at times, just have some savings to cover it. And when I say savings, I don’t mean the money you are using for school or a family vacation, I am talking about an emergency fund that you put aside and forget about until an emergency pops up, like being overdrawn.

Matthew - www.Adventure-Some.com March 12, 2010 at 4:49 pm

Like you mentioned, call the bank and talk to someone. If you immediately take steps to solved the problem, and stay calm, it can be fairly easy to get some help. I’ve seen overdraft charges dropped, especially for those who rarely make such mistakes.

Mis-communication often seems to be the problem, from what I’ve experienced. Two people with access to a single account have to keep each other informed as to their actions, or problems can ensue.

Great tips and practical advice. Thanks!

Bill W March 12, 2010 at 5:45 pm

I have overdrawn both my business and personal accounts at different times.
When that happens,the fault is mine, as I find most likely I have forgotten to
post in some debits to my account,resulting in an overdraft situation.I find that
some banks will work with a customer,and some banks will not.The degree of
politeness,does not seem to make a big difference here.I always try to keep on
top of these things,but running a small business leaves me pressed to pay as close attention,to my accounts as I should.What helps is now I review my on-line banking activity,on a daily basis.That helps me spot a problem,or a
potential problem much more quickly.Trying to reconcile a busy,working
account on a once a month or even once a week basis,doesn’t work for me.
In this age of instant debit card transactions,I find I need to focus much more
closely on my activity.Another benefit of monitoring my accounts daily,is
that I am much less likely to get hit with fraud or identity theft,and that is
worth a lot,in terms of my peace of mind.Finally,I really feel strongly,that
wherever you bank,it really is a good idea,to know your bank manager,and
have a good working relationship with that person.It is often times just not
possible for your bank teller,or call center rep,to make decisions concerning
overdraft fees.A bank manager has the kind of authority required,to help
with problems like overdrafts.

Evolution Of Wealth March 12, 2010 at 6:47 pm

Being a person to the bank is key. Be real, tell them what’s going on in your life. You might have to put your ego aside a bit to get some results.

Also BofA just changed their policy. They just announced that overdraft will be an opt-in service instead of an opt-out service (to comply with new credit card act). This means that if you try to do a transaction without the funds it will be denied unless you opt-in and take the fee. Also, they’re removing the less than $10 thing. I don’t know about the 4 per day though, I haven’t seen anything on that.

Arthur @ FinancialBondage.org March 13, 2010 at 6:36 pm

you may find this tool useful.

http://www.bbt.com/Calculators/CheckBook.html

MD March 13, 2010 at 11:44 pm

I’ve actually had this happen to me on more than one occasion. I found that it had a lot to do with a detachment to my money. I was using my debit card for most purchases (rarely did I use a credit card, but a debit card feels a lot like a credit card sometimes) and my paycheck was on direct deposit. I rarely handled cash and I never went to the bank and because my checks were being directly deposited I knew “I always have money in the bank” – which I guess goes along with the point of not tracking spending – because I wasn’t. I was swiping my card like there was an endless barrel of money on the other end. I never thought of asking the bank to drop overdraft fees I figured that was a no-no, but I’ll keep that in my hat. Not that I plan on having that happen again. :)

Jason @ One Money Design March 16, 2010 at 12:50 pm

Great insight and comments from everyone! Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts and experience.

I think Bill has a great point about tracking spending each day. Even with personal accounts this can be helpful. I know from past experience, trying to reconcile spending at the end of each week can prove to be a monumental task sometimes.

Jamie March 17, 2010 at 9:03 am

I use ingdirect.com for all my banking, and they have a fantastic overdraft policy for their orange checking accounts: rather than pay a flat fee, they charge interest instead. What does this mean? The smaller the amount over drafted and the more quickly it is brought positive, the less you have to pay. The last time I accidentally over drafted (I forgot about my insurance being auto-deducted), I paid a grand total of three cents. That’s .03 people! And since it’s an interest bearing checking account, i ended up more than breaking even anyway. The only downside to this is that when you open the account it does hit your credit since they consider this a line of credit. Personally, I think it’s totally worth it! I no longer worry about over drafting, because paying a few cents is nothing compared to late charges on my bills. If you’re interested in opening an account (it’s super easy and secure), a referral from someone who already has an account will get you a $25 bonus if you open the account with at least $250. I’d be happy to send anyone a referral to get this bonus, just comment back with your email address. btw ingdirect isn’t paying me to say all this stuff, I just really love banking with them and i want to share the good news! note: i am not saying that over drafting is always the solution (you should track your spending!); but accidents happen and when they do, wouldn’t you rather pay less for them?

Addy June 12, 2010 at 10:08 pm

Just yesterday I logged on to my checking account online and, for the first time in my life, I found horrid red numbers staring back at me. $12.39 to be exact. I went into a state of shock. In over 40 years of having checking accounts, I had never been overdrawn. I did not understand how this could happen. Since I pay for everything with my check card, I was of the impression that something like this would be avoided by my card being declined if there were insufficient funds. What a rude awakening! I had no idea that my bank would allow overdraft “protection” by processing the two transactions that put my account into the negative. I thought “overdraft protection” was something you opted into if you had a savings account or credit card to access in the event of insufficient funds. After all, I OPT IN for medical and life insurance “protection”, I OPT IN for product warranty protection. Anytime there is a cost for “protection”, it is an OPT IN choice, not something that is forced upon the customer.

I immediately phoned my bank’s customer service 800 number. Since I had a direct deposit pending for processing at Midnight that night, they informed me that although they could not guarantee it, there was a possibility that the $35 fee would not process before my deposit. I also told them that I wanted to opt out of any overdraft protection. Although they agreed to do so, they stated that it would not take effect until August 15th when the law goes into effect. (I take from that comment that my bank, against the customer’s express wishes, will continue to grab every penny they can from customers.) When I checked my account this morning there was not one $35 fee, but TWO! That’s $70 out of my account that I cannot afford, unless I choose to go without food and gas for the next two weeks. Since my employer recently saw fit to reduce employees’ pay by 10% and increase insurance premiums by 100%, there is now just enough to squeak by. I do not live beyond my means at all but, unfortunately, the fullest extent of the pay cuts has now been felt. Hence, the overdrawn account. I will be contacting my local branch office to speak with the manager, who knows me well. I cannot imagine that he would not waive these two $35 fees for a loyal customer of 20+ years, who has had two car loans with them (both paid on time and paid off early) and has never, ever been overdrawn on an account. I truly wish I had known that my bank would process transactions that sent the account into the red. If they do not waive these fees, I will find another bank and close my account with them.

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