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		<title>By: TheGooch</title>
		<link>http://christianpf.com/using-a-roth-ira-as-an-emergency-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-136430</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I had my retirement plan(profit sharing) from my previous employer &gt;&gt;transfered to ROTH IRAon Feb. 2010.

It sounds like you already did it, so why are you asking if you are doing the right thing? Was it an actual rollover, or did you just take funds from one account and deposit them into another one? It sounds like a rollover since the yearly limit for contributions is $5k. However, I&#039;ve never heard of rollovers except for 401k&#039;s into ROTH IRA&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I had my retirement plan(profit sharing) from my previous employer &gt;&gt;transfered to ROTH IRAon Feb. 2010.</p>
<p>It sounds like you already did it, so why are you asking if you are doing the right thing? Was it an actual rollover, or did you just take funds from one account and deposit them into another one? It sounds like a rollover since the yearly limit for contributions is $5k. However, I&#8217;ve never heard of rollovers except for 401k&#8217;s into ROTH IRA&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://christianpf.com/using-a-roth-ira-as-an-emergency-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-106227</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those unfortunate 99 months still unemployed who sent applications to countless hiring companies with no luck, with my house and car facing foreclosure and repossession,my wife working as per diem and her income just enough to put foods in our table, so frustrated and depressed what else we can do to survive. Please let me know what are the implication and disadvantage that I had my retirement plan(profit sharing) from my previous employer transfered to ROTH IRAon Feb. 2010. I am doing my own tax return through legitimate  e filing,but before I will submit my tax return, I need to know the implication, consequences, or I am doing the right thing I transferred all the amount($47,000)from my retirement plan to ROTH IRA? The last time I contribute for my ROTH IRA was 1999 for only $400.00. Anyhow, we are filing  married filing jointly.My wife has only $300.00 on her ROTH IRA account since 1999. Please advice , or give me any insights ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those unfortunate 99 months still unemployed who sent applications to countless hiring companies with no luck, with my house and car facing foreclosure and repossession,my wife working as per diem and her income just enough to put foods in our table, so frustrated and depressed what else we can do to survive. Please let me know what are the implication and disadvantage that I had my retirement plan(profit sharing) from my previous employer transfered to ROTH IRAon Feb. 2010. I am doing my own tax return through legitimate  e filing,but before I will submit my tax return, I need to know the implication, consequences, or I am doing the right thing I transferred all the amount($47,000)from my retirement plan to ROTH IRA? The last time I contribute for my ROTH IRA was 1999 for only $400.00. Anyhow, we are filing  married filing jointly.My wife has only $300.00 on her ROTH IRA account since 1999. Please advice , or give me any insights ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://christianpf.com/using-a-roth-ira-as-an-emergency-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-83710</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of the commentors to this missed the point.

First many are talking about how terrible it is to make withdrawals from a Roth.  BUT we&#039;re talking about emergency funds.  You should never withdraw from your emergency fund anyway...UNLESS ITS AN EMERGENCY!  A new coach purse or even a downpayment for a new car might not qualify (a used car you need to get to work because you don&#039;t have any other way...that&#039;s an emergency.  An emergency operation...that&#039;s an emergency.  Raiding your fund for a downpayment on a house because you can&#039;t afford it otherwise but will saddle yourself with a mortgage that&#039;s higher than your rent...NOT AN EMERGENCY and also not a good idea).

If you only have $5000 and your choices are
1) put it in a savings account and call it an emergency fund 
2) put it in a Roth and call it an emergency fund

You should do the 2nd one.

Because otherwise you never again get the chance to contribute to the Roth (next calendar year rolls around, you&#039;ve missed out which is worse than putting the money in and taking some out later).  And, since it&#039;s a designated emergency fund in your mind you probably won&#039;t use it anyway.  So the money will sit there and grow.  But it&#039;ll do a lot more for you than if it sat languishing in low rate savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of the commentors to this missed the point.</p>
<p>First many are talking about how terrible it is to make withdrawals from a Roth.  BUT we&#8217;re talking about emergency funds.  You should never withdraw from your emergency fund anyway&#8230;UNLESS ITS AN EMERGENCY!  A new coach purse or even a downpayment for a new car might not qualify (a used car you need to get to work because you don&#8217;t have any other way&#8230;that&#8217;s an emergency.  An emergency operation&#8230;that&#8217;s an emergency.  Raiding your fund for a downpayment on a house because you can&#8217;t afford it otherwise but will saddle yourself with a mortgage that&#8217;s higher than your rent&#8230;NOT AN EMERGENCY and also not a good idea).</p>
<p>If you only have $5000 and your choices are<br />
1) put it in a savings account and call it an emergency fund<br />
2) put it in a Roth and call it an emergency fund</p>
<p>You should do the 2nd one.</p>
<p>Because otherwise you never again get the chance to contribute to the Roth (next calendar year rolls around, you&#8217;ve missed out which is worse than putting the money in and taking some out later).  And, since it&#8217;s a designated emergency fund in your mind you probably won&#8217;t use it anyway.  So the money will sit there and grow.  But it&#8217;ll do a lot more for you than if it sat languishing in low rate savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://christianpf.com/using-a-roth-ira-as-an-emergency-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-17672</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am planning on retiring next year, and I want to do a roll over,,I have not paid any taxes on my money, but I want to roll it over instead of paying a big tax on it all at once, then I want to with draw about 2,000 a month to help with the morgage,,do I pay the taxes each month when I with draw or at the end of the year? Do I have to pay a fee to with draw each month? With all that the last year has showed us with investments and banks ,,I am a little worry about my money. 
Bob ( fellow Christian )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am planning on retiring next year, and I want to do a roll over,,I have not paid any taxes on my money, but I want to roll it over instead of paying a big tax on it all at once, then I want to with draw about 2,000 a month to help with the morgage,,do I pay the taxes each month when I with draw or at the end of the year? Do I have to pay a fee to with draw each month? With all that the last year has showed us with investments and banks ,,I am a little worry about my money.<br />
Bob ( fellow Christian )</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick 
just for the sake of clarification, it is just your contributions. I think you caught that Pochax said this, but I just wanted to make sure it is still clear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick<br />
just for the sake of clarification, it is just your contributions. I think you caught that Pochax said this, but I just wanted to make sure it is still clear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can withdrawal it all ?? 

Well what the heck, why don&#039;t we make all our savings accounts a Roth? That sounds pretty swell, you still get all the investment options, and tax free withdrawals anytime you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can withdrawal it all ?? </p>
<p>Well what the heck, why don&#8217;t we make all our savings accounts a Roth? That sounds pretty swell, you still get all the investment options, and tax free withdrawals anytime you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a terrible idea to withdraw contributions from your Roth IRA. Unless you are in dire need, you are hurting yourself in the long run because that money won&#039;t continue to grow for your retirement. Do NOT think of your Roth as an emergency fund!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a terrible idea to withdraw contributions from your Roth IRA. Unless you are in dire need, you are hurting yourself in the long run because that money won&#8217;t continue to grow for your retirement. Do NOT think of your Roth as an emergency fund!</p>
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		<title>By: Pochax</title>
		<link>http://christianpf.com/using-a-roth-ira-as-an-emergency-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-13710</link>
		<dc:creator>Pochax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick:
1) you can withdraw ALL contributions (but not gains)..not just in the last tax year.  If you have contributed $50k over 15 years and the Roth is now worth $100k (= $50k gains), you can withdaw up to $50k tax- and penalty-free.  You will have to be careful and fill out all the correct forms during tax filing.

the problem with looking into it reverse:
it depends on what your definition of emergency is.  Many people use emergency funds as a basket to dip into for the occasional overspending from their written budget.  routinely doing this with a Roth can have major repercussions on future gains.  i am not saying NEVER to use the Roth as an emergency fund, just to limit it to TRUE emergencies (catastrophic unexpected events) and still try to set up a more liquid emergency fund in a savings account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick:<br />
1) you can withdraw ALL contributions (but not gains)..not just in the last tax year.  If you have contributed $50k over 15 years and the Roth is now worth $100k (= $50k gains), you can withdaw up to $50k tax- and penalty-free.  You will have to be careful and fill out all the correct forms during tax filing.</p>
<p>the problem with looking into it reverse:<br />
it depends on what your definition of emergency is.  Many people use emergency funds as a basket to dip into for the occasional overspending from their written budget.  routinely doing this with a Roth can have major repercussions on future gains.  i am not saying NEVER to use the Roth as an emergency fund, just to limit it to TRUE emergencies (catastrophic unexpected events) and still try to set up a more liquid emergency fund in a savings account.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds pretty interesting, but I have some serious questions. 

1) What money can you withdrawal penelty free?  Is it any money you put in during that calendar year?  Or any money you put in within the past 12 months? 

Obviously if it&#039;s by the calendar year, and you have an emergency in January, then you have a problem. 

2) After 12 months, or after the calendar year, depending on question 1, your emergency fund, BECOMES your retirement savings, becuase you can no longer tap into it tax free.  So whatever your emergency fund needs to be, minus the annual amount you put into your roth, needs to be stored away somewhere else. 

Other than that, I think it&#039;s a pretty good idea. 

To Pochax,  I think you could look at it in reverse.  Where you would put $5,000 aside for emergency fund, you could put it into the roth and if you don&#039;t have an emergency then great, you just made the compounded interest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds pretty interesting, but I have some serious questions. </p>
<p>1) What money can you withdrawal penelty free?  Is it any money you put in during that calendar year?  Or any money you put in within the past 12 months? </p>
<p>Obviously if it&#8217;s by the calendar year, and you have an emergency in January, then you have a problem. </p>
<p>2) After 12 months, or after the calendar year, depending on question 1, your emergency fund, BECOMES your retirement savings, becuase you can no longer tap into it tax free.  So whatever your emergency fund needs to be, minus the annual amount you put into your roth, needs to be stored away somewhere else. </p>
<p>Other than that, I think it&#8217;s a pretty good idea. </p>
<p>To Pochax,  I think you could look at it in reverse.  Where you would put $5,000 aside for emergency fund, you could put it into the roth and if you don&#8217;t have an emergency then great, you just made the compounded interest!</p>
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		<title>By: Rajeev Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajeev Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Emergency Fund&quot; is one of the most important funds that you need to set up from your savings,..with job security already being a thing of past it always helps to have the fund to take care of your needs for 6-8 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Emergency Fund&#8221; is one of the most important funds that you need to set up from your savings,..with job security already being a thing of past it always helps to have the fund to take care of your needs for 6-8 months.</p>
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